A JTM has a much looser bottom-end response, but a sweeter clean tone when its turned down. The History of the Legendary Marshall JCM800 2203. On a lower gain setting, it does sound like a Plexi, but it sounds like a really bright modern Plexi amplifier which is great for cutting through a heavy mix or a band with a lot of different instrumentation. I found it a little less convincing on the high gain settings, though still not entirely different than the JCM 800 demos. JCM800) - £185. The JCM800 is a cool iconic amp but at the end of the day its just impracticable. It sounded glorious jumpered and cranked but my ears would ring for quite a while after playing through it. I think all the JCM 2000 models have channel. Would a Plexi with a pedal be similar to a JCM800 gain wise (at lower volumes)? From what I can hear, it seems that Plexis are smoother and chewier, and JCM800s can be throatier and grittier. Using jfet technology, this is a dual mode overdrive that can recreate the tones of several of older Plexi amps and the more modern JMP and JCM800, applying also Van Halen’s “Brown Sound” hack through the Variac knob, which sweeps the voltage from 7. High & Low Sensitivity Inputs On JCM800?. Marshall Amp in a Box: Best JCM 800 Mimicking Pedal. JCM800 2203 horizontal imputs vs vertical imputs. Not a Marshall but the Friedman BE100 Deluxe is that and more. However those selected here are the JCM800 and Plexi clones - in alphabetical order really, The Pinnacle is widely considered the perfect EVH pedal - for which I currently have a number of alternative options. Marshall Studio Series SV20H & SC20C. Guitar Gear Forum • View topic. It’s a mod to the lower gain channel that includes a. “There’s not much difference between the JCM800 and JMP circuits, however. Plexis have a more raw and open sound, while jcm800s are most focused and in your face. This “Marshall Amp in a Box” pedal replicates the classic JCM800 tone rather convincingly and can deliver tones ranging from bluesy Hendrix-style sounds to the high-gain sound that we all love from a cranked Marshall amp. Review: Marshall Studio Series SV20H & SC20C. Something that might help both amps (plexi and JCM 800) more gainy tones at lower volume levels is a master volume control that is able to get power tube saturation when turned up just above half way, for the channel, and a global volume control that controls only the overall volume the amp puts out. You need to switch on the JF- 32 for getting an unprecedentedly clean tone enabling you to hit crisp and powerful arpeggios punctuated with fine midrange attack and transparency. A high gain Marshall-voiced pedal that actually excels at giving you the sound of a JCM 800. This is the opinion of someone who isnt all that well informed, so take it as such. On an 800, there is another gain stage (1/2 tube because a 12AX7 has two gain stages). The four inputrs give you roughly the same choices as a tweed Bassman. I think the common idea of an 800 is actually the hot rodded tones that came after. The JCM 800 model 1987 and 1959 (and models 1986 and 1992 for bass) have two independent channels but are not foot switchable. The JCM 800 are higher gain master volume amps, from the 80s I think. The JCM800-recalling Studio Classic SC20C’s control panel The styling is certainly classic enough, with gold piping, a Plexi-style control panel, old-school metal switches and vintage-style knobs. Tone-wise, the JCM 800 is similar to a brighter metal-faced Plexi. The JCM800 (early models) are to this day an industry standard. JCM800 2203 horizontal imputs vs vertical imputs >JCM800 2203 horizontal imputs vs vertical imputs. The horizontal input model might not sound a lot different, but I think the PCB mounted inputs and pots are possibly less reliable, and certainly more difficult to work on. To many, the Marshall JCM800 is the perfect tube amplifier. The first Soldano Amps were modded 1959SLPs, and JCM800 Marshalls! The differences are numerous, as a Soldano is not a Marshall, and a Marshall is not a Soldano. This part was key too: “Naturally an old Marshall Super Lead modded for master volume and cascaded gain stages will sound a touch different to a JMP2203/JCM800 but not much, once modified in this way the circuit is Id say 95% or more the same. Something that might help both amps (plexi and JCM 800) more gainy tones at lower volume levels is a master volume control that is able to get power tube saturation when turned up just above half way, for the channel, and a global volume control that controls only the overall volume the amp puts out. The first year JCM 800 is very plexi like with some very distinct performance differences. i would go with the JCM 800 , its more the sound your looking for , not that a JMP could not do it , but the 800 is the sound of the 80s rock , also that JCM 800 is a great amp to mod if you wish in the future. I dont know much about the differences between the JCMs Maybe if you like playing Hendrix and Halen a good amp would be like a Plexi Reissue or Clone with EL34s. The JMC800 uses a cold clipper stage with an unbypassed 10k cathode resistor. As mentioned before the jcm 800 2203kk is a real work horse that thing comes with 4 kt88 tubes. If you want more whoomph, itll drive a 4x12 cab, same as any 50-watt head. Does plexi-ish tones going into more hot-rodded stuff and JCM800 territory. Soldano liked to use a more aggressive 39k cathode resistor for an even colder cold clipper. Splawn makes an amp that literally lets you toggle between Plexi/JCM800/something else Im blanking on, sounds like what you want. The JMC800 uses a cold clipper stage with an unbypassed 10k cathode resistor. The JCM800 (early models) are to this day an industry standard. Splawn makes an amp that literally lets you toggle between Plexi/JCM800/something else Im blanking on, sounds like what you want. The SLP can be considered to be an uber hot rodded tweed Bassman. JCM800 is a generation removed from the SLP. Here are two clips that were recorded by the same guy that illustrate the difference between a real-deal 1967 plexi 1987 (50W) and 1977 JMP 2204 (50W 2204 JCM 800 in JMP clothing). Id pass - its pretty easy to find JCM800 or JMP 2203 heads for sale these days. Maybe if you like playing Hendrix and Halen a good amp would be like a Plexi Reissue or Clone with EL34s. Upgrade for the Marshall® Models 2205, 2210. The JCM800-recalling Studio Classic SC20C’s control panel The styling is certainly classic enough, with gold piping, a Plexi-style control panel, old-school metal switches and vintage-style knobs. Marshall SC20/2525 vs Victory Sheriff 22?. Marshall guitar amp heads: what you need to know. BUT, Channel One is a clean JCM800 and a Cranked JCM800. When using the high gain input, it has lots more pre-amp gain for 80s rock and metal sounds. Tone-wise, the JCM 800 is similar to a brighter metal-faced Plexi. Ive played it (the one in the recording) with Dave (Phillips) running the controls. The 800 has more gain but its a different kind, it comes from the front and can be a bit harsh but the plexi just sings. these are often considered their best amps, both for different reasons. I dont think it sounds better than a real plexi at volume though. The plexi - you have to turn a lot louder and hit with eq/drive to get in the same area as the 800. That pedal is a spot on Marshall JCM800 in a box. The two channels are designated ‘high treble’ and ‘normal,’ and each has a high and low instrument input. Tighter than the jcm800. I don’t think of it as a great clean platform, though. How to recreate the famous Dookie modded Marshall amp?. Yngwiestein Mojos Minions Location: Between A Cow And A Jack in the Box Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3076 Tweet #4. The JCM 800 are higher gain master volume amps, from the 80s I think. One of the main differences is that the JCM 800 is a master volume amp, while the Plexi is a non-master volume amp. i would go with the JCM 800 , its more the sound your looking for , not that a JMP could not do it , but the 800 is the sound of the 80s rock , also that JCM 800 is a great amp to mod if you wish in the future. I like them both and really cant pick a favorite between the two. The jcm (depends upon tubes and version) when turned up is tougher to clean up w/volume knob, but you can get there. On a plexi it has a fuller and more pronounced sound, it has more thump, more oomph, if you will. Each amp has their own tone that makes them great (or in some cases terrible). Does plexi-ish tones going into more hot-rodded stuff and JCM800 territory. The JCM 800 models 2204 and 2203 are single channel amps, with low and high inputs. This is one of the holy grail amps for hard rock and classic heavy metal tones, so naturally, a pedal able to capture these sounds is a must for every “heavy” rock musician. Here are two clips that were recorded by the same guy that illustrate the difference between a real-deal 1967 plexi 1987 (50W) and 1977 JMP 2204 (50W 2204 JCM 800 in JMP clothing). That pedal is a spot on Marshall JCM800 in a box. What is the Plexi Guitar Amp Sound?. A JCM800 has tighter low-end and much more agressive gain. “There’s not much difference between the JCM800 and JMP circuits, however. It’s an amp that’s very responsive to your guitars volume knob; as you’d want from a Plexi. Would a Plexi with a pedal be similar to a JCM800 gain wise (at lower volumes)? From what I can hear, it seems that Plexis are smoother and chewier, and JCM800s can be throatier and grittier. However those selected here are the JCM800 and Plexi clones - in alphabetical order really, The Pinnacle is widely considered the perfect EVH pedal - for which I currently have a number of alternative options. Tone-wise, the JCM 800 is similar to a brighter metal-faced Plexi. The JCM800-recalling Studio Classic SC20C’s control panel. A JTM would be good too but with less gain and overdrive then the Plexis. This particular pedal is gunning for the sound of the famous Marshall JCM800. I liked the Origin and for the money it’s a great amp. W wareagle New Member Joined Oct 26, 2008 Messages 323. Marshall Vs Friedman Owners. However the mids are very pronounced. I think all the JCM 2000 models have channel switching, and reverb. Plexi/JCM800 in One : r/GuitarAmps. Hi/Lo sensitivity on a plexi is just different amounts of gain but same number of tube stages. I have a JTM45 clone, and an 83 JCM800 2204. Note the following gain stage is biased warm with an 820 ohm cathode resistor. What would sound closer? A Plexi trying to sound like a JCM800, or a JCM800 trying to sound like a Plexi? Id think the first. A high gain Marshall-voiced pedal that actually excels at giving you the sound of a JCM 800. MARSHALL 1987X PLEXI / And compared to a JCM800 2203 & JCM2000 TSL100 24,886 views Mar 27, 2021 975 Euge Valovirta 21K subscribers With passive & active pickups. He had it loud in the auditorium and it wasnt harsh. Stratman Guitaris Maximus Location: OPEN ROAD Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6659 Tweet #3 06-12-2004, 04:55 PM Re: Difference between Plexi and JCM 800?. Peavey 5150 vs Marshall JCM800. Two well known amps are-of course, both by Marshall- the JCM 800 and the Super Lead Plexi. Stratman Guitaris Maximus Location: OPEN ROAD Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6659 Tweet #3 06-12-2004, 04:55 PM Re: Difference between Plexi and JCM 800?. This is the opinion of someone who isnt all that well informed, so take it as such. Two well known amps are-of course, both by Marshall- the JCM 800 and the Super Lead Plexi. Compare the scematics of a 1959 vs. Marshall amp differences: 18 Watt, JTM45, Plexis?. Difference between Plexi and JCM 800?. One of the main differences is that the JCM 800 is a master volume amp, while the Plexi is a non-master volume amp. Marshall JCM 900s and 2000s. Using jfet technology, this is a dual mode overdrive that can recreate the tones of several of older Plexi amps and the more modern JMP and JCM800, applying also Van Halen’s “Brown Sound” hack through. Would a Plexi with a pedal be similar to a JCM800 gain wise (at lower volumes)? From what I can hear, it seems that Plexis are smoother and chewier, and JCM800s can be throatier and grittier. The first year JCM 800 is very plexi like with some very distinct performance differences. By using both masterV and pre-amp volumes you can go from marshall clean to plexi-like gain to hot-rodded plexi type gain. Which do you think is the overall superior amp head? Liam V. In my experience, the 4010 is a great little amp - its the JCM800, 50-watt, master volume, single-channel, 1x12 combo. Obviously with the master volume, the JCM can deliver higher gain levels at more reasonable levels. JCM800 EytschPi42 162K subscribers Subscribe 178K views 2 years ago Marshall now has 20 Watt Versions of three of their most iconic amp models. Not a modded Plexi, and not a JCM800. Ive never played one personally, but most reviews Ive seen make it seem very middle of the pack. A 3-band EQ section + presence allows for ample tone-sculpting. The JF-32 Hot Plexi Drive Effect Pedal by JOYO makes your VOX AC15C1 or JCM800 amp perform beyond your expectations. It’s an amp that’s very responsive to your guitars volume knob; as you’d want from a Plexi. If you want more then you need an o/d pedal or a preamp. Something I learned recently is that a 2203 is a type of Super Lead so that actually got me back into looking into 2203s after pretty much being set on a Plexi. The JCM 800 model 1987 and 1959 (and models 1986 and 1992 for bass) have two independent channels but are not foot switchable. Note the following gain stage is biased warm. So basically a JCM 800 already has the mods and is basically ready to go. I do miss the 1987 for one big reason, its more articulate than the 800. I have a JTM45 clone, and an 83 JCM800 2204. Best JCM800 In A Box Pedal. JCM800 EytschPi42 162K subscribers Subscribe 178K views 2 years ago Marshall now has 20 Watt Versions of three of their most iconic amp models. The Wampler Plexi Drive. com%2ffeatures%2fmarshall-amps-explainer/RK=2/RS=5oPfDWuzEMCEiwbSgO7ldZNq6No- referrerpolicy=origin target=_blank>See full list on guitarworld. Technically, what the diff between a JCM800 & a JCM2000?. For example Would a Plexi with a pedal be similar to a JCM800 gain wise (at lower volumes)? From what I can hear, it seems that Plexis are smoother and chewier, and JCM800s can be throatier and grittier. plexi59 Guest Dec 24, 2019 #10 You cant model everything under the sun. Can somebody talk to me about JCM800 vs. The Angry Charlie is JHS Pedals’ take on it. And the most-desireable Marshall models tend to be closest to the original specs. AlanH Well-Known Member Joined Jul 2, 2017 Messages 533. For me, the quintessential Plexi sound is a JMT45 turned up to 10, as heard from Clapton on the “Beano” album. Comparing them to the SLO100 isnt a stretch at all. The JCM800 is a cool iconic amp but at the end of the day its just impracticable. The Gunshot is a pedal that is not always associated with Marshall tones, but that is what I am informed it was modelled on - to drive you right through the range from Super Lead style Plexi through JCM800 and even onto JCM900. Something that might help both amps (plexi and JCM 800) more gainy tones at lower volume levels is a master volume control that is able to get power tube saturation when turned up just above half way, for the channel, and a global volume control that controls only the overall volume the amp puts out. One of the main differences is that the JCM 800 is a master volume amp, while the Plexi is a non-master volume amp. Not a modded Plexi, and not a JCM800. The JF-32 Hot Plexi Drive Effect Pedal by JOYO makes your VOX AC15C1 or JCM800 amp perform beyond your expectations. That particular amp is a 4 holer, with 2 inputs being standard plexi, and 2 being Super Bass. JCM800 is where its at for me anyway, as far as Marshall tone is concerned. Of course, the JCM has a master volume, where the JTM has none. the Best Compact Marshall Style Pedals. The Plexi sound is synonymous with incredible volume and crunchy overdrive, as guitarists of the ’60s cranked the volume do achieve more distortion. 🥇Whats the Best JCM800 Pedal? (Reviews. This is the amp which I would choose as it has more possibilities. Splawn makes an amp that literally lets you toggle between Plexi/JCM800/something else Im blanking on, sounds like what you want. Its an EXTREMELY faithful clone of Dave Friedmans 68 50 watt plexi. I only have experience with the Jcm (15yrs) and plexi (5yrs). 🥇What’s the Best JCM800 Pedal? (Reviews. Two well known amps are-of course, both by Marshall- the JCM 800 and the Super Lead Plexi. I think the reason is the voicing. MARSHALL JCM800 vs PLEXI - New STUDIO CLASSIC vs. The JCM 800 models 2204 and 2203 are single channel amps, with low and high inputs. Hi/Lo sensitivity on a plexi is just different amounts of gain but same number of tube stages. Two well known amps are-of course, both by Marshall- the JCM 800 and the Super Lead Plexi. By using both masterV and pre-amp volumes you can go from marshall clean to plexi-like gain to hot-rodded plexi type gain. Plexi Vs Jcm800Jubilee vs. How the Marshall Plexi, 2204 and JCM800 Amplifiers Work. Tone-wise, the JCM 800 is similar to a brighter metal-faced Plexi. Which Mini Marshall should you get? Jubilee vs. In my experience, the 4010 is a great little amp - its the JCM800, 50-watt, master volume, single-channel, 1x12 combo. JCM800>Guitar Gear Forum • View topic. JCM800 EytschPi42 162K subscribers Subscribe 178K views 2 years ago Marshall now has 20 Watt Versions of three of their most iconic amp models. One of the main differences is that the JCM 800 is a master volume amp, while the Plexi is a non-master volume amp. Not Marshall, but Epic Amplifications sells a mod for Jet City amps that accomplishes exactly this. If what you are after is a hot-rodded JCM800, remember that SC20 is the sound of the original JCM800, not hot-rodded. The JCM 800 models 2205 and 2210 have two, foot switchable channels. I dont think it sounds better than a real plexi at volume though. Which has more gain/distortion between a Marshall Origin. I don’t feel the Plexi from it, really. They both have great qualities but I settled on the 800. I only have experience with the Jcm (15yrs) and plexi (5yrs). few questions Marshall SV20H Studio Vintage Head (small >A few questions Marshall SV20H Studio Vintage Head (small. I currently use a Marshall DSL5C (the old ones without reverb), but I like how both of these are simpler, and frankly the classic gain/clean channel on the DSL5C is useless to me. Its small enough to move around conveniently, but packs enough power for gigs. JCM800 Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:51 am. The Golden Plexi by Tone City is designed to model a British tube amp tone and for such a low price point it comes ridiculously close, especially on the lower-gain sides of a JCM 800 comparison. Something I learned recently is that a 2203 is a type of Super Lead so that actually got me back into looking into 2203s after pretty much being set on a Plexi. Its an EXTREMELY faithful clone of Dave Friedmans 68 50 watt plexi. i also seldom use a pedal in front of my amps , it thins the tone IMO. On a lower gain setting, it does sound like a Plexi, but it sounds like a really bright modern Plexi amplifier which is great for cutting through a heavy mix or a band with a lot of different instrumentation. The JCM 800 models 2204 and 2203 are single channel amps, with low and high inputs. In fact, you could still get the 2204 and 2203 master volume models, and for a short while you could also get the 1987 and 1959. A few questions Marshall SV20H Studio Vintage Head (small. The JMC800 uses a cold clipper stage with an unbypassed 10k cathode resistor. Not a modded Plexi, and not a JCM800. The first year JCM 800 is very plexi like with some very distinct performance differences. Marshall: JTM or JCM whats the difference?. Most recording studios all have at least one on the floor. plexi59 Guest Dec 24, 2019 #10 You cant model everything under the sun. HIDEAWAY (1966) by John Mayalls Bluesbreakers- featuring Eric. When the JCM800 line hit the streets in May 1981, the only difference between the JMP 2203 and the new JCM800 version was purely aesthetic. It has more gain than a tweed due to its 12AX7 tubes instead of the Bassmans 12AY7s. MARSHALL 1987X PLEXI / And compared to a JCM800 2203 & JCM2000 TSL100 24,886 views Mar 27, 2021 975 Euge Valovirta 21K subscribers With passive & active pickups. 6 user reviews on Marshall 4010 JCM800 [1981 (this model has 2 overdrive channels and the The legend Marshall is at your fingertips – The manual is clear and Common replacement for Marshall® 2205, 2210, 4140, 4145, 4210, 4211, and 4212 (JCM800 series). JCM800 amp heads are recognisable by the full-width panel and cloth front, rather than the JMP-style vinyl front. JCM stands for James Charles Marshall. Id pass - its pretty easy to find JCM800 or JMP 2203 heads for sale these days. The JCM800-recalling Studio Classic SC20C’s control panel The styling is certainly classic enough, with gold piping, a Plexi-style control panel, old-school metal switches and vintage-style knobs. Technically, what the diff between a JCM800 & a JCM2000?>Technically, what the diff between a JCM800 & a JCM2000?. MARSHALL JCM800 vs PLEXI - New STUDIO CLASSIC vs. The JF-32 Hot Plexi Drive Effect Pedal by JOYO makes your VOX AC15C1 or JCM800 amp perform beyond your expectations. Not a modded Plexi, and not a JCM800. The JCM 800 are higher gain master volume amps, from the 80s I think. The amount of gain is good enough for most pop & rock rhythm sounds - it is smooth/controlled and sounds good. As you can see in the picture below, these changes were as follows: Much larger Marshall logo White piping frame around the baffle Baffle covered with cabinet grille cloth instead of vinyl. The JCM800 has a plexi heart yet has a master volume to give you some gain sounds at lower level. com/_ylt=AwrEoYS5hFZkAA8lWGlXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzIEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1683420473/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww. The Best Amp in a Box Pedals. 6 user reviews on Marshall 4010 JCM800 [1981 (this model has 2 overdrive channels and the The legend Marshall is at your fingertips – The manual is clear and Common replacement for Marshall® 2205, 2210, 4140, 4145, 4210, 4211, and 4212 (JCM800 series). has more gain/distortion between a Marshall Origin >Which has more gain/distortion between a Marshall Origin. Using jfet technology, this is a dual mode overdrive that can recreate the tones of several of older Plexi amps and the more modern JMP and JCM800, applying also Van Halen’s “Brown Sound” hack through the Variac knob, which sweeps the voltage from 7. Marshall Plexi PPIMV VS JCM 800 GAIN Difference. The styling is certainly classic enough, with gold piping, a Plexi-style control panel, old-school metal switches and vintage-style knobs. “There’s not much difference between the JCM800 and JMP circuits, however. Also seem to have more low end than the 800 Studios. The DSL5C red channel is much more hot-rodded than the SC20. Marshall jcm 800 model 2210 manual. I dont know much about the differences between the JCMs. It sound huge! As far as my experience with 5150s I can only speak on behalf of the 6505+ its a very dark amp but it sits a bit too low in the mix for me.